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  1. In comics this was done by multiple. I believe Mother Talzan used it at one point. It’s considered dangerous because during the period, even half a second, of the bslde being off to bypass their defense, all they gotta do is move their blade a couple inches closer to you and you die.

  2. Most of the time if you don’t block an attack then they will hit you and kill you before you can even turn yours back on tho 🤷🏻‍♂️ or you both die so

  3. The legends reason as to why neither side uses this tactic was because it actually was a form called Trakata. However it was banned by the Jedi as the only reason to use this form would be to kill another lightsaber wielder and was also frowned upon by the Sith as winning with this form wouldn’t show actual dominance over your opponent, rather just that you tricked them once

  4. If I remember correctly, they did do this in an episode of visions

  5. I wonder if the slow retract time, and the really characteristic on/off noise would give away the trick. Force sensitive have insane reflexes.

    So that’s a huge risk. And obviously if you’re shutting your blade off, that’s a moment where you are completely defenseless, so if the opponent anticipates jt or can react fast enough, you’re toast.

  6. Old Star Wars extended canon would like a word with you. I’ve read books where lightsaber chicanery of this sort was pretty standard.

  7. This is illegal and considered dishonor in both the Jedi and Sith code.

  8. Cal Kestis basically does this, though he doesn’t use it to kill or pass his lightsaber “through” Trillas, but only to kinda trip her up and get the upper hand.

  9. Jedi outlawed that move seen as it was deemed too violent and unfair and served only to kill someone so it went against their holy crusade crap

    Sith never used it as they viewed as a sign of weakness having to rely on such cheap tricks to defeat an opponent and they were too arrogant to ever use it

  10. Jedi- ITS NOT FAIR DONT DO THAT

    sith- you have a small dick if you do that

  11. This would be know as Form 8 and both the Jedi and Sith outlawed it for obvious reasons.

  12. That’s because customer support will put you on hold while you restart your lightsaber.

  13. One of the duels in SW: Visions uses exactly this and its hella cool.

  14. The Jedi and the Sith both despised this technique. The Jedi because they deemed it unsportsmanlike and unfair. The Sith because they believed in the strength of negative Emotions such as rage. This technique they deemed cowardice and thus thought of people who used it as weak.

  15. I’m kind of surprised that I haven’t seen any comments about the difference between static blocking and parrying or counter cutting.

    To be clear, im not a sword expert, merely a mild enthusiast so if I’m wrong about something please pipe in and add to the discussion.

    A static ‘block’ consists of throwing ones blade up between themselves and an incoming strike. It’s static as has no momentum. Now while this is a thing, to my understanding it is typically not considered the most effective defense in classical sword fighting. I believe skallgrim has a couple videos about how an experienced sword fighter blocks with fluidity, allowing momentum to carry his parry or block into another attack, or to counter cut his enemy by attacking in the same movement as his defense. A static block is something that a sword fighter wants to stay away from as much as possible because it leaves you extremely vulnerable to feints or in this scenario, your opponent turning his blade off to bypass your strike.

    Most swordsmen will stay as far from static blocks as possible, favoring mobility and momentum to get past their opponents defense. This makes a move like turning your blade off insanely risky as it leaves you completely defenseless, and any swordsmen with even a moderate amount of skill would already be striking back at you as you turned the blade back on. And that’s not even considering force enhanced reflexes.

    I think this is even portrayed in the movies, where Luke relies on slow static blocks against vader since he is an amateur, he has no skill with a blade. Contrast that against the scenes in the prequels where the swordsmanship is much more fluid.

    Attempting a strike against a jedi or a sith by turning off your blade would just be insanely risky no?

  16. Uhm…you’re blocking a laser pointed at your face

    Your opponent is trying to hit you, not your blade

    I do NOT recommend turning it off

    But you do you man

  17. It’s called trakata

  18. In the lore this is a straight up Jedi fighting style. Not very popular as the Jedi see it as underhanded and dishonourable but it does exist

  19. Didn’t Kylo do this in TLJ?

  20. For both sides this is more of an unspoken agreement not to do this, jedi see it as wrong to do and the sith see this as a sign of weakness if you do it, that’s the explanation that I know of so it is possible to do so, however, it is frowned upon.

  21. You could do that… but what’s stopping me from just continuing my swing and cutting you in half? The swings take less than a second.

  22. This is part of a lightsaber form neither jedi or sith use search it pu

  23. There IS a lightsaber tech/Form, that depends on switching your lightsaber on and off. But the Jedi said it was not honorable, while the Sith said that they didn’t need such trickery to beat their oponents/jedi. It was almost never used because of that. (Sorry if something is Hard to read, english is my second language)

  24. Why not use the Force to hit the off switch on your opponent’s saber?

  25. Trakata absolutely sucks, there’s a reason nobody uses it. In a duel between two people with superhuman reflexes who can see the future, the time delay where the blade takes like a second to shut off and retract might as well be eternity.

  26. I mean, if someone sees through that trick then it could just as easily be you who gets sliced.

    The lightsaber is both your offensive and defensive weapon. I don’t think the slight offensive advantage is worth temporarily losing your defense.

  27. So now I’m thinking about two lightsabers. One that’s the normal correct length one like a Japanese katana, and then a secondary one that is a rapidly off and on emitter like a machine gun but with the blade. Maybe it’s shorter like a wakizashi but it’s rapidly firing on and off so as to pass through other lightsabers in battle. Dual wielding at its finest. But with this being a “technology” for it to be truly epic is for only 1 person or 1 group of jedi or Sith or some 3rd lightsaber wielding faction to use. That way its still unique and dangerous as opposed to just everyone having it.

  28. This is kinda sorta similar to what toon Grievous did, only he juggled his lightsabers and switched between his hands and feet to throw Jedi off balance.

  29. In Jedi Fallen Order Cal Kestis turns off his lightsaber when him and Trilla are in a saber lock. It caught her off balance then he force pushed her and grabbed her saber.

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