1. Idk about this ‘new brand’ of centrism coming from Ukraine, to say george bush has zero right to call out russia for unjustified invasions is not whataboutism. We gotta stop teaching liberals new words tbh.

  2. But I fucking did wtf

  3. OP is off base here. Dude is just (correctly) pointing out the selective giving of fucks on this issue: Western, white countries deserve sympathy and attention, but when we do the same shit to brown people suddenly there’s no problem

  4. I think Mr. Tracey is correct on this.

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    TrumpWasABadPOTUS April 4, 2022 at 5:20 pm

    I will admit that there are at least some people, usually fairly apolitical liberals, who really do seem to have only just jumped on the bandwagon of support for Ukraine without any history of caring about other conflicts.

    However, I’d say that rhe vast majority of people who I know who care about Ukraine have also opposed previous US involvement and conflicts. Not only are most people anti-war as a default stance nowadays, but also I remember a lot of the same voices who are now champion Ukraine also speaking up about the bombing campaigns in Yemen, the US involvement in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other Middle Eastern countries, the clusterfuck that was and still is Syria, the Israeli persecution of Palestinians… just because those got less coverage doesn’t mean people, especially those who keep very much up to date about Ukraine, never cared before.

  6. Search twitter for a video of him getting arrested for stalking Ann Coulter.

    Guy is a joke.

  7. Russia engages in actual whataboutism to excuse its crimes. To condemn both Russian and American war crimes is not whataboutism, it’s justice

  8. It’s also just a dumb take.

    American citizens can be concerned about war crimes, period. The unfortunate reality of the modern world is that average American citizen has very little power to affect their governments.

  9. As far as I know, in Iraq we didn’t line up civilians hog tied hands around their back and executed them. We didn’t mass rape women and including children as little as 6 years old and then burnt their remains.

    The US has done some truly awful things, like dropping atomic bombs on civilians. But what Russia has done in 2022 is beyond what the US did in the past 50 years.

    I stand corrected… This is truly some heinous shit….


  10. In my case, and in Tracey’s case, it’s not whataboutism. It’s outrage over the difference in attention and consequences for the invasion of Ukraine vs all those others.

    Which sanctions did Israel, USA and Saudi Arabia receive?

  11. Once again, internet leftists are more mad about supposed hypocrisy than actual war crimes.

    But fuck the normies- sorry, the liberals- amirite fellas?

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